REPORT ON TRAIN-THE-TRAINERS’ OUTCOME-BASED EDUCATION (OBE) WORKSHOP, HELD AT THE ABUBAKAR TAFAWA BALEWA UNIVERSITY, BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE, FROM FRIDAY, 10TH – SATURDAY, 11TH FEBRUARY, 2023.
- Introduction
The train-the-trainers Outcome-Based Education (OBE) workshop was held at the PTDF-IV. PTDF Building Room, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa University (ATBU), Yelwa Campus, Bauchi, Bauchi State, from Friday 10th to Saturday 11th February, 2023.
About one hundred and sixteen (116) participants from the following four (4) Universities were in attendance: Abubakar Tafawa Balewa University, Bauchi; University of Maiduguri, Maiduguri; Federal University, Wukari, Taraba State; and Federal University, Dutsinma, Katsina State.
- Registrar’s Opening Remarks
The Registrar of COREN, Engr. Prof. Adisa, Ademola Bello, FNSE, FAEng., welcomed all the participants and the resource person to the workshop. He briefly introduced Council for the Regulation of Engineering in Nigeria (COREN), highlighting its Vision and Mandate. He equally underscored the objectives of the OBE Workshop as well as the expectations of COREN from participants and their various Universities at the end of the workshop.
- Courtesy Call on the Vice Chancellor of Abubakar Tafawa Balewa University, Bauchi
The Registrar, Engr. Prof. Adisa, Ademola Bello, in company of COREN Team paid a Courtesy Call on the Vice Chancellor of Abubakar Tafawa Balewa University, Prof. Muhammad Ahmad Abdulazeez. He stated that COREN normally pays courtesy visits on Vice Chancellors of universities at OBE workshops to ensure that the leaderships of such institutions are carried along in this very important programme. He intimated the Vice Chancellors that COREN, henceforth, expects those in need of OBE workshops to sponsor them. Also with the Vice Chancellor were Dean, Faculty of Engineering, Prof. A. D. I. Sulaiman; Assistant Dean, Faculty of Engineering, Engr. Prof. Ya’u Haruna Shuaibu among others.
In his response, the Vice Chancellor welcomed COREN delegation expressing the determination of the university to be Outcome-Based Education compliant in order to produce graduates with employable skills. He equally thanked the Registrar for bringing the OBE programme to Abubakar Tafawa Balewa University, (ATBU), Bauchi. Describing the Registrar as one of theirs, he urged the Dean and other participants to take the workshop seriously as Nigeria is in dire need of scientists and engineering practitioners who would help proffer practical solutions to the developmental needs of the nation and the continent at large.
Thereafter, the Team proceeded to the venue for the workshop proper.
- COREN TEAM
The workshop was chaired by the Registrar, Engr. Prof. Adisa, Ademola Bello, FNSE, FAEng., and assisted by other members of the team as shown below:
| S/N | Name | Interest Represented | Address |
| 1. | Engr. Prof. Adisa, Ademola Bello | Registrar | COREN, Abuja |
| 2. | Engr. Prof. Baba Shehu Waziri | Council Member | University of Maiduguri, Borno State |
| 3. | Engr. Prof. Baba El-Yakubu Jibril | Resource Person | ABU, Zaria. |
| 4. | Engr. Precious C. Onuoha | PPD&C | COREN, Abuja |
| 5. | Matthew Aondoakura TYOVER | Registrar’s Office | COREN, Abuja |
| 6. | Mr. Mahmood Salisu | COREN State Officer | COREN, Bauchi |
- OPENING CEREMONY
In his Opening Speech, the Registrar of COREN, Engr. Prof. Adisa, Ademola Bello, FNSE, FAEng. welcomed all the dignitaries and participants to the occasion. He briefly reiterated the vision and mandate of COREN explaining the rationale for the workshop. The registrar added that COREN in 2016 became a member of the Federation of Engineering Institutions of Asia and the Pacific (FEIAP). Not only that COREN has applied to be become a member of the Washington Accord and part of the requirements is the successful incorporation of Outcome-Based Education curriculum in its accreditation exercises.
Already, COREN has been visited and one of her accreditation exercises supervised by one of the two Nominators who have accepted to endorse her application to the Washington Accord – the Pakistan Engineering Council (PEC). In no distant time, the second Nominator – Board of Engineers Malaysia (BEM) would pay COREN a verification visit.
He concluded that having conducted the workshop in the five Geo-Political zones, COREN thought it wise to organise one for the North East. He thanked the Vice Chancellor; Dean, Faculty of Engineering and all the participants for turning up for the programme.
Goodwill messages were received from various dignitaries after which the Vice Chancellor, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa University (ATBU), Prof. Muhammad Ahmad Abdulazeez highlighted the achievements recorded by the university. He thereafter, declared the training workshop open.
Registration of participants according to their Institutions took place on the first day of the workshop.
- PAPER PRESENTATIONS BY THE RESOURCE PERSON
The resource person, Engr. Prof. Baba El-Yakubu Jibril presented six (6) papers in totality and conducted three (3) practical sessions on Day 2 of the training/workshop. Below is the schedule of the paper presentations and practical sessions:
DAY 1
| S/N | Topic | Knowledge/Skill |
| Presentation 1 | OBE and Engineering Learning Outcomes | Knowledge |
| Presentation 2 | Bloom’s Taxonomy and OBE Curricula | Skill |
| Presentation 3 | Washington Accord OBE Accreditation Criteria Part A | Knowledge |
DAY 2
| S/N | Topic | Knowledge/Skill | |
| Presentation 4 | Washington Accord OBE Accreditation Criteria Part B | Skill | |
| Presentation 5 | Assessment and Evaluation | Skill | |
| Presentation 6 | Washington Accord Accreditation: Team and Outcomes | Knowledge | |
| Practical Session 1 | Review of exercise on Mapping of Mission –
PEOs —POs —CLOs (exercise to be given on day 2) |
Skill
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| Practical Session 2 | Review of Exercise on Development and Evaluation of CLOs for common courses (exercises was given) | Skill | |
| Practical Session 3 |
Review of exercise on Prospects and Challenges of Implementing new pedagogy in Engineering Programmes in Nigerian Universities (exercise given) |
Skill | |
- CLOSING
The workshop came to an end on Saturday, 11th of February, 2023 with a National Prayer from the 2nd Stanza of the National Anthem at 6:00pm.
ATTENDANCE FOR ABUBAKAR TAFAWA BALEWA UNIVERSITY, BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE
| S/N | NAME | ADDRESS | TELEPHONE | |
| 1 | ENGR. DAHIRU HALILU USMAN | BAUCHI BAUCHI STATE | dahiruhaliluusman@gmail.com | 08065459534 |
| 2. | ENGR. YAHAYA A. FATE | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | fateskali@gmail.com | 08033896696 |
| 3. | DR. RAPHAEL S. OGUIKE | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | oraphael@atbu.edu.ng | 08127827109 |
| 4. | ENGR. DR. ABDULLAHI LANRE AMOO | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | alabdullahi@atbu.edu.ng | 09033784171 |
| 5. | ENGR. ABUBAKAR ALIYU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | Babanyoro777@gmail.com | 08035748498 |
| 6. | ENGR. DR. BALA GAMBO JAHUN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | gjbala@atbu.edu.ng | 08165556747 |
| 7. | ENGR. DR. ISAH YAKUB MOHAMMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | yimohd@atbu.edu.ng | 08038165583 |
| 8. | ENGR. SULEIMAN ALIYU MOHAMMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | Suleialyuolo@gmail.com | 07039602095 |
| 9. | ENGR. YUSUF OLABODE RAJI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | yoraji@atbu.edu.ng | 08036380099 |
| 10. | ENGR. DR. HASSAN ALIYU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | hassancentauri@yahoo.com | 07066573474 |
| 11. | ENGR. JEMILATU BOSEDE OMODIBO | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | omodiboboye@gmail.com | 08024578000 |
| 12. | ENGR. USMAN ABUBAKAR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | uabubakar66@yahoo.com | 08036174622 |
| 13. | ENGR. SAMBO ALIYU UMAR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | asuma@atbu.edu.ng | 08036402430 |
| 14. | ENGR. MUSA IDI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | imusa@atbu.edu.ng | 08032629158 |
| 15. | ENGR. DR. MOHAMMED BELLO ADAMU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | mbadamu@atbu.edu.ng | 08180668268 |
| 16. | AMBROSE YAKUBU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ambroseyakubu@gmail.com | 08109319592 |
| 17. | ENGR. ADAMU YAWALE BABAWURO | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | adamu.yawale@atbu.edu.ng | 08034315912 |
| 18. | ENGR. MAHMOOD ABDULHAMEED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | amahmood@atbu.edu.ng | 08036314470 |
| 19. | ENGR. AHMED HARUNA UMAR | BAUCHI, BSUCHI STATE | ahumar234@gmail.com | 08155554149 |
| 20. | ENGR. DR. USMAN HASSAN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | uhassan2@atbu.edu.ng | 07036155233 |
| 21. | ENGR. NUHU MOHAMMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | mnuhu@atbu.edu.ng | 07065064657 |
| 22. | PHILOMINA HAMIDU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | philominahamidu@atbu.edu.ng | 07085147672 |
| 23. | HALIMAT I. LAWI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | halimatlawi@gmail.com | 08134070013 |
| 24. | ENGR. DR. HASSAN BUHARI MAMMAN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | buhammamman2007@yahoo.com | 08036045113 |
| 25. | ENGR. DR. ABDULKADIR LUKMAN NIYI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | nalukman@atbu.edu.ng | 08036045113 |
| 26. | EMMANUEL IDOKO ABAH | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | Iabah499@gmail.com | 08101076499 |
| 27. | ENGR. MOHAMMED AMINU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | maminu@atbu.edu.ng | 08038603353 |
| 28. | ENGR. BASHIR MUHAMMAD | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | mbashir@atbu.edu.ng | 08060850597 |
| 29. | ENGR. NASIR KABIR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | naskabirnasir@gmail.com | 08039680911 |
| 30. | ENGR. AHMED GARBA IBRAHIM | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | agibrahim@atbu.edu.ng | 08036055400 |
| 31. | ENGR. MOHAMMAD ABDU NASARA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | mohammad.nasara@gmail.com | 08067571999 |
| 32. | ENGR. MUHAMMAD HADI IBRAHIM | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | hmibrahim@atbu.edu.ng | 08035777862 |
| 33. | ENGR. PROF. JACOB S. JATAU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | jacobjatau@atbuedu.ng | 08036183602 |
| 34. | ENGR. PROF. YA’U HARUNA SHUAIBU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ysharuna@atbu.edu.ng | 08130719445 |
| 35. | ENGR. PROF. A.D. IBRAHIM SULAIMAN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | sdibrahim@atbu.edu.ng | 08060924136 |
| 36. | ENGR. LAWAL A. SADDIQ | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | lawalsaddiq@yahoo.com | 08026673557 |
| 37. | ENGR. IBRAHIM N. CHIROMA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ibrahimnchiroma@gmail.com | 08036207010 |
| 38. | ENGR. TIJJANI YARO AHMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | tyahmed@atbu.edu.ng | 08034205604 |
| 39. | ENGR. PROF. AJE TOKAN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ajetokan@atbu.edu.ng | 08029043706 |
| 40. | ENGR. A. A. FACHWAY | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | aalifachway1963@gmail.com | 08060874196 |
| 41. | ENGR. DR. JIBRIL MOHAMMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | jmohammed@atbu.edu.ng | 08104893452 |
| 42. | ENGR. AMINU BELLO ALHAJI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | aminuba8736@yahoo.com | 08036556999 |
| 43. | ALHASSAN SHUAIBU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | alhassanbadikko@gmail.com | 08034057789 |
| 44. | ENGR. DR. SAEED ISA AHMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | siahmed@atbu.edu.ng | 08131808280 |
| 45. | ENGR. M. A. BAWA PhD | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | mabawa@atbu.edu.ng | 08063226489 |
| 46. | ENGR. ADAMU UMAR CHINADE | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | umaradamu@yahoo.com | 08038625939 |
| 47. | ENGR. BENJAMIN TERNENGE ABUR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | tbabur@atbu.edu.ng | 08162734084 |
| 48. | ENGR. CLAUDIUS KONITUFE | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | kclaudius@atbu.edu.ng | 08032460676 |
| 49. | ENGR. ISHAKU THLAMA BALAMI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ishakubalami@yahoo.com | 08068312514 |
| 50. | ENGR. DR. ADEKUNLE MOSHOOD ABIOYE | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | amadekunle@atbu.edu.ng | 08033932228 |
| 51. | ENGR. DR. IBRAHIM SAIDU SINTALI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ssibrahim@atbu.edu.ng | 07081616662 |
| 52. | LIKITA NAMCHI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | likitanamchi2@gmail.com | 09038343036 |
| 53. | DR. D. A. AJIYA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | aadahiru@atbu.edu.ng | 08038509546 |
| 54. | ENGR. JAMILU MUSTAPHA AHMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | jmahmed@atbu.edu.ng | 08076748644 |
| 55. | ENGR. MUHAMMED AHMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | Ahmedbako1525@gmail.com | 08026991987 |
| 56. | ENGR. SHUAIBU SAIDU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | sintalissaid@gmail.com | 08038070691 |
| 57. | ENGR. IDRIS AHMAD IDRIS | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | Idris.ahmad05@gmail.com | 08035331233 |
| 58. | ENGR UMAR GARBA AHMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | umargarbaahmed84.com | 08054153150 |
| 59. | ALFRED ADEYI JOSEPH | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | alfredadeyijoseph@gmail.com | 08134070002 |
| 60. | ENGR. DR. S. O. GIWA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | sogiwa@atbu.edu.ng | 07055647325 |
| 61. | ENGR. ABUBAKAR SALIS | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | asalis@atbu.edu.ng | 07068214437 |
| 62. | ENGR. DR. OLUBAJO OLUMIDE OLU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ooolubajo@atbu.edu.ng | 08062791594 |
| 63. | ENGR. YAKUBU SHEHU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | yhehu2@atbu.edu.ng | 08065459840 |
| 64. | ENGR. PROF. UMAR OMEIZA AROKE | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ouaroke@atbu.edu.ng | 08033896322 |
| 65. | DR. KABIR GARBA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | gkabir@atbu.edu.ng | 08039596023 |
| 66. | ENGR. ABDULKADIR HASSAN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | bbcgwallameji6@gmail.com | 08130629422 |
| 67. | ENGR. KABIRU IBRAHIM JAHUN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | kijahun@atbu.edu.ng | 08037678785 |
| 68. | ENGR. OBADIAH MAXWELL | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | omaxwell@atbu.edu.ng | 08039420274 |
| 69. | ENGR. DR. U. D. HAMZA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | udhamza2@gmail.com | 08144471019 |
| 70. | ENGR. PROF. UMAR EL-NAFAR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | elnafar@gmail.com | 08023742492 |
| 71. | ENGR. DR. SUNUSI AMINU ABUBAKAR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | aasanusi@atbu.edu.ng | 08039591276 |
| 72. | ENGR. ABUBAKAR ALIYU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | abanyero777@gmail.com | 08035748198 |
| 73. | ENGR. I. I AHMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | iiahmad@atbu.edu.ng | 08065874832 |
| 74. | ENGR. DR. ATUMAN SMAILA JOEL | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | sjatuman@atbu.edu.ng | 08157680448 |
| 75. | ENGR. PROF. JIBRIL DANLADI JIYA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | jdjiya@atbu.edu.ng | 07032153315 |
| 76. | DR. IBRAHIM HASSAN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ihassan@atbu.edu.ng | 08032890930 |
| 77. | ENGR. DR. IBRAHIM A. IKARA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | iiabdulkarim@atbu.edu.ng | 07032466475 |
| 78. | ENGR. NAFISATU ABDULHAMID ABUBAKAR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | lillys0274@gmail.com | 08135193578 |
| 79. | ENGR. PROF. USMAN ALIYU EL-NAFATY | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | elnafaty@gmail.com | 08023742492 |
| 80. | ENGR. ABUBAKAR ABDULMALIK MAHMUD | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | mahmudatbu@gmail.com | 07030556903 |
| 81. | ENGR. DR. MURTALA AMINU BABA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | limaminkobia@yahoo.com | 08038027880 |
| 82. | ENGR. DR. UMAR BELLO OKATENGWU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | buokatengwu@atbu.edu.ng | 07036000632 |
| 83. | ENGR. IBRAHIM AHMAD IBRAHIM | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | iiahmad@atbu.edu.ng | 08065874532 |
| 84. | ENGR. ABDULWAHAB DUROJAIYE ISMAIL | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | adismail@atbu.edu.ng | 08060434467 |
| 85. | ENGR. PROF. DANDAKOUTA HABOU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | hdandakuta@gmail.com | 08038530933 |
| 86. | ENGR. PROF. ROBINSON I. EJILAH | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | irejilah@atbu.edu.ng | 08057243194 |
| 87. | ENGR. DR. KABIR GARBA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | gkabir@atbu.edu.ng | 08039596023 |
| 88. | ENGR. PROF. SHUAIBU M. MUSA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | shbmusa@atbu.edu.ng | 08023558399 |
| 89. | DR. ABDULRASHEED ABDULRAHMAN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | aabdulrasheed@gmail.com | 08038870295 |
| 90. | HAUWA BANYAMI MAIGARI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | maigarihauwa24@gmail.com | 08060838359 |
| 91. | ENGR. YUSUF SALEH | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ysaleh@atbu.edu.ng | 07063536918 |
| 92. | ENGR. ABDULRASAQ SALAUDEEN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | asalaudeen@atbu.edu.ng | 08084698123 |
| 93. | ENGR. ALIYU MAHMOOD | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | aliyumahmood@gmail.com | 08036367497 |
| 94. | DR. AKANNANG HANNATU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | akananghannatu@gmail.com | 07035483911 |
| 95. | BARAMBU AISHATU UMAR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | aubarambu@atbu.edu.com | 08032985884 |
| 96. | ENGR. LUKMAN ONIKOLA ADESHINA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | lukman.onikola@gmail.com | 08032005415 |
| 97. | ENGR. DR. HASSAN SABO MIYA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 98. | ENGR. NURA MUSA TAHIR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 99. | ENGR. NASIR ABUBAKAR YAKUB | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 100. | BASHIR MAIKAMA | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 101. | LAMIDO USMAN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 102. | ENGR. USMAN ISYAKU BATURE | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 103. | SAEED MODIBBO | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 104. | ENGR. DR. MUHAMMED DAHIRU BUHARI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 105. | OMOTAYO OMONIYI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 106. | ENGR. PROF. GANIYU A. BAKARE | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 107. | ENGR. I. TAHIR | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 108. | ENGR. HAMZA SULAIMAN PALI | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 109. | NASIRU UMAR AHMED | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 110. | ENGR. ABBAS MUSA HASSAN | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE | ||
| 111. | ENGR. DR. IDRIS MUHAMMAD MISAU | BAUCHI, BAUCHI STATE |
ATTENDANCE FOR FEDERAL UNIVERSITY, DUTSINMA, KATSINA STATE
| S/N | NAME | ADDRESS | TELEPHONE | |
| 1 | ENGR. ABUBAKAR SABO BABA | KATSINA, KATSINA STATE | abubakarsabobaba@gmail.com | 08037153410 |
ATTENDANCE FOR FEDERAL UNIVERSITY, WUKARI, TARABA STATE
| S/N | NAME | ADDRESS | TELEPHONE | |
| 1 | ENGR. PROF. SAM BABA ONOJA | WUKARI, TARABA STATE | deanfoe@fuwukari.edu.ng | 08053453383 |
ATTENDANCE FOR UNIVERSITY OF MAIDUGURI, BORNO STATE
| S/N | NAME | ADDRESS | TELEPHONE | |
| 1. | ENGR. PROF. BABA SHEHU WAZIRI | MAIDUGURI, BORNO STATE | shehuwaziri@gmail.com | 08069636368 |
| 2. | MUSA MUSTAPHA | MAIDUGURI, BORNO STATE | musamusty@gmail.com | 08036753258 |
| 3. | ENGR. BUKAR ADAM | MAIDUGURI, BORNO STATE | adambukar36@yahoo.com | 07039227267 |
CONCLUSION
The workshop was successfully conducted as the participants demonstrated in-depth knowledge and skills using assessment tools such as Programme Learning Outcomes (PLOs) and Course/Activity Learning Outcomes (CLOs) during the practical sessions. Certificates of participation were issued to the one hundred and sixteen (116) participants who attended the workshop.
Registrar
7th March, 2023.